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good morning sense of things audience we’re glad  to have you guys here again once again we’ve got  

some fun things to talk about we’ll also have  uh some economic indicators that Ron’s going to  

share with us and a little bit about the markets  Ron how you doing brother good morning no good  

morning doing got a political Seasons Heating up  so get your popcorn out or get your vomit bucket  

out I’m not sure which one vomit bucket or either  that or your noos so much has been made of this  

this upcoming presidential debate my my theory  is it’s going to be because my theory is that one  

side the president is going to be not as exciting  as he is everybody thinks he’s going to be and I  

think the former president is going to be muted  so I think it’s going to be like watching slugs  

call across the ground so well my my my two  thoughts are number one you’re not going to  

learn anything nope number and number two they’re  not supposed to be exciting debates yeah they’re  

not supposed to be fireworks yes you’re supposed  to learn you’re supposed to learn how would you  

handle this situation yes what would your solution  be I go back to boring let’s learn something not  

gonna happen it’s not going to happen and once  again CNN has made such a big deal about this  

I’ve seen it countdown clock yeah every yeah  countdown clocks and all the fox is gonna have  

a simoc cast and all this stuff and it’s gonna be  boring so every you’re You’re Gonna Learn nothing  

as Ron said and it’s just not going to be exciting  I’ve never watched a presidential debate because  

they bore the living tears out of me and nothing  is ever it’s just a bunch of gobbly goop in most  

cases gobbly goo’s a good word or maybe that’s two  words I’m not sure you’ve got some fun stuff to  

talk about I’m assuming I absolutely do all right  let’s see here we go all right you see my screen I  

do Wizard of Oz 1939 movie The Horse of the iconic  horse of different color was used creating jello  

jello I didn’t even know I I knew Jello has been  around for a while I didn’t know it was back I  

didn’t know it went all the way back to then yeah  that’s crazy yeah so it was they did they coated  

the horse with Jello C and jell crystals  but here’s the funny thing Buddy Epson was  

the original Tin Man yep and they used to spray  literally silver on him so that to a point where  

he inhaled it into his lungs got sick and he was  taken off the he couldn’t perform for the movie  

probably the last two last generation doesn’t  remember that story but yeah so you want to  

talk about back 1939 what they were trying to do  for special effects and makeup yeah and didn’t  

didn’t the Cowardly line it was like it caused  him all kinds of the stuff that they put on him  

or the glue that they put on him to get the the  stuff on I think he broke out from that too so  

these poor guys are like just getting destroyed  and then and then of course Judy Garland who the  

hell knows how any of this affected her she  she certainly went went South pretty quick  

within a few years did did not last too long  no all right next one Burger King introduced  

wine in 1915 I was unaware of this and then you  read it right it was called the soall Whopper  

wine they were pairing wine with Whoppers but  it was only in Spain that they tried this out  

because they did some ridiculous marketing study  that people in Spain loved wine with their meal  

so in order to draw them into Burger King wow for  dinner they they wanted to sample and pair of wine  

with your Whopper it’s what goes well with a  Whopper what goes well with a whatever their  

version of a mcfish is I don’t know it’s this  goes with a good white Spanish wine this goes  

with a good tempero and I’m thinking of a p p Noir  with my Oreo cookies tonight well that’s probably  

true it’s maybe they’re good for dunking but as  we talked about in the previous podcast the Oreos  

are smaller now so you got to eat more of them  yeah you just got to put your fingers a little  

further into the glass that’s all and here this  was interesting because I was born about 18 years  

too late because all my favorite music was from 65  to 71 me too Led Zeppelin turned down Woodstock to  

avoid being typ cast typ cast is what and here’s  the crazy thing they were only they’d only just  

formed as a band I think the year before really  because remember they came out of The Yardbirds  

so they were only out there for a year and they  were afraid of being tip cast yeah I’m like yeah  

this is the biggest stage on the nobody knew it  was going to be as big as it was it was some of  

the most was some of the biggest stars of their  time yeah I thought it was fun and interesting  

but hilarious ridiculous anyway I got to go  back so our Market has been at ridiculous  

levels and you and I put together our forecast in  the beginning of the year I think this might have  

been in December early January yeah and here  we are we’re already well past all of it yeah  

I still think we’re going to end up in the 4900 to  5100 range it all depends on how deep of a pothole  

we step in prior to the election I believe we’re  going to be higher after the election but I just  

cannot see unless there’s a clear winner going  into the election I’m talking about five to six  

or more points ahead I can’t see how with the  market won’t get thrown around yeah and get a  

pullback which will be a great time to get back  in to buy the dip what are your thoughts oh no I  

agree and I could have never thought that it’s as  high as it is today it’s just been a ridiculous  

year and it’s one of those ones as a and I’m  sure you feel the same way as a money manager  

you’re just like okay I I just I’m waiting for  the shoe to fall and you have your hand on the  

trigger finger or you have your trigger finger on  the the trigger but I just at at this point I’m  

like I can’t not be involved in this and be part  of that ride but we’re just going to have to be  

fast about shifting gears if it decides to move  the other way pretty quick and and I don’t know  

the trigger is here’s the conundrum I have people  that are one to three years away from retirement  

yep so as you get closer to retirement you drisk  but then they’re saying I’m also missing some of  

the upside here yeah and the whole thing is like  we don’t know we’re going to wake up tomorrow and  

another October 7th will happen yep who knows  not wishing for any of that but the whole goal  

is to be a risk manager and the idea is okay  you’re missing some of the upside but we get  

a five or 10 pull five or 10% pullback in the next  two months you’re protected yeah right you’re not  

you’re either you’re protected or you’re not going  to see that much of a pullback it’s definitely a  

conundrum and had some tough conversations with  clients but many of them are just scared crapless  

about what’s going on out there and they have  been for 12 to 18 months yeah yeah once again  

it’s just it’s I just don’t know what the answer  is the answer for me is I watch this like a hawk  

every day and it just keeps rolling rolling we had  that minor little pullback throughout April and  

early may pull back towards the end of May but Off  to the Races again here in June and we’re going  

into the summer months which it’s anybody’s game  you know the volume goes down so the the magnitude  

can be up or down either direction and if if the  volumes down and all of a sudden the senic slides  

to we’re concerned about the market it’s anybody’s  game on what can happen during that time period so  

AG we just have to be prepared and we’re getting  pretty far away from the 50-day moving average  

at this point so I I think there’s that chance of  seeing things work their way downward again during  

the summer months absolutely absolutely so I got  two economic indicators one we covered in our last  

podcast which was the pce and and this isn’t just  going back 5 10 or 15 years or even to the doc  

com this is going back 45 46 years and we’ve never  seen the depth of the negativity with the 10-year  

yield and the thre Monon this is a lot of look I  we we’ve talked about the two and 10 the two-year  

being higher than the 10year the FED looks at  the three Monon over the 10 year and I everybody  

talks about the consumer and this spending  and everything else but realistically credit  

conditions have tightened y so unless we get some  type of a flush out or a reset so the Fed rate  

could come down 50% in the next 18 to 24 months I  don’t see where the next Bull push in the economy  

is going to be because what they say 60 70% of the  profits of the entire S&P 500 is from five or six  

stocks yeah so how are we going to get that next  push up if it’s not going to be broad-based and  

I think a lot of it has to do with the interest  rates and the credit tightening yeah it’s just  

compan those few company you know I think largely  because of AI they’re major players in the AI  

world right now so they’re or or they have some AI  component and that’s what just keeps pushing them  

so people just put aside logic and they just look  at this is the next push in the economy but yeah  

it’s not been broad-based and it really has not  been broad-based for the last two or three years  

and there’s one or two ways that could happen it  could be that those now probably five stocks pull  

back and they become less important and that money  scatters out a little bit more to the broad base  

or they’re the last ones to fall and it pulls  the market down so I don’t know what the answer  

to that is you know I think the most important  thing is keeping an eye on it and making sure  

that you risk manage however you risk manage  whether it’s through asset allocation whether  

it’s through trading whatever it is you want to  be aware of that and you want to be able to make  

those adjustments when you need to yep so now  we got to follow the most important indicator  

it’s not the underwear indicator damn it it’s  the lipstick recession indicator oh Jesus so  

this is monitoring sentiment in lipstick  sales okay and uh right now it’s almost  

like sentiment from excellent good only fair to  poor and things are trending down okay so lip  

lipstick sales are down I have no idea what this  means or why this means this but I understand the  

underwear sales the lipstick sales I’m not  sure as far as an indicator yeah guys don’t  

replace underwear that often but women have to  replace lipsticks hopefully they’re washing it  

yeah that’s true and and hopefully if you’re going  to donate it you washed it before you donated it  

but you throw those skibbies out that’s what you  do all right so then we have an investment idea I  

thought this was interesting solar’s been around  forever certainly in the last 15 to 20 years it’s  

it’s certainly grown I know you were involved  in a solar industry solar business for a while  

and I thought this was interesting because in a  correlation with AI and data warehouse power I  

think you’re going to see a lot more of these  data centers if they don’t have them already  

having a complete Bank of solar panels on their  roofs and their property to just help combat the  

skyrocketing price of a power and utilities and  I will say this I’m talking industry specific I  

could not tell you what a Solar Company would  be a winner here I have no idea maybe you have  

a better idea no ETF maybe yeah I mean the funny  part is and I was actually just going through this  

as an investment theme did some research and  I’m like they all I mean can’t find a one that  

makes me excited at this point they’ve all been on  this kind of gradual downtrend and I’ve not seen  

anything the problem with solar companies is they  rely so much on subsidies yes and Subs subsidies  

are you just don’t have any control over it in  the in the Solar business yeah you get subsidies  

in the form of a tax credit for an individual and  for businesses but that only lives for one year  

and you’re going and going and they can change  the subsidies those can go down over time there’s  

just an immense amount of changes that happen and  that’s really the only reason solar gets sold in a  

lot of cases now I will tell you I I added solar  to my home the good part is we’re going into the  

hot months of the year and I know exactly what my  bill is going to be every month I it my it will go  

up slightly because we just can’t produce enough  power on my roof I could add double the solar  

panels and in peak times of usage we just can’t  keep up and it drains the battery down and it’s  

pulling from the Grid at that point but my bill  will not be over 150 bucks during the summer wow  

I’m surprised it was even then I have my solar  bill which is consistent every single month so  

when everybody’s talked about this increase when  in electric costs and all that electric costs over  

the last 3 years are up 25% and they’re getting  higher this summer I know pretty much I’m going to  

be in a a pretty tight range when it comes to that  so that’s that was the reason I did it I didn’t do  

it as a mathematical calculation of when it would  get paid back and all that I did it as you know  

what I want to be able to know that I’m going  to be consistent from that perspective and the  

problem is the the cost of Bing solar panels the  materials are still so expensive and I was going  

to bring up subsidies if you didn’t bring it up  because without those subsidies it’s a lot tougher  

to justify the cost yeah it was funny because my  dad was involved in the Solar industry in the 7s  

and that’s what killed the solar industry in the  70s they were massively subsidizing all this and  

then all of a sudden they shut that down and boom  the solar industry went away and it really didn’t  

come back again for another 30 to 40 yeah about 30  years it started and even today I could have said  

it 20 years ago the prices got to get cut half yep  we live in two we live in two states where the sun  

is out most of the year and it’s pretty hot but  if they could cut it in half without subsidies I  

think you could see I don’t know what percentage  of houses have it or apartment complexes whatever  

but it should be should approach 50% if it makes  it worthwhile I don’t know what that does for  

margins and if you can attract the right talent  but at some point we’ll get there at some point  

we’ll get there but I just thought that was  interesting I think it’s a solution but it’s  

not the the the people that are all about the the  planet and everything else the only solution is  

solar and wind and I drove through West Texas God  awful ugly country to begin with and it’s now even  

uglier with all these windmills out there and the  funny thing is we’re going through there and it’s  

20 25 M per hour winds it was somewhat windy day  and half of them are shut down because they can’t  

run them when you get upwards of 30 m per hour  wind so it’s what’s the point I don’t understand  

that because I actually sat on a plane with a guy  that was very big in the wind turbine industry and  

he said in order to make a windmill worthwhile  there has to be at least an eight or a nine M  

hour per wind you’d figure 30 you’d have plenty  of energy being generated there there’s a limit  

to how fast they can turn at that point and so  then it puts a lot of stress on them so they only  

turn at a a certain amount of revolutions per per  minute and just jamming more wind in there doesn’t  

help so then they end up shut from down and it’s  okay all right so you’ve put multi-billions of  

dollars into these things and just because it’s  windy it’s the west Texas Plains it’s flat as  

a fraking pancake and there’s always wind out  there and okay how often are these things shut  

down what’s the deal with it it’s insane and  God forbid they are just the most ugly things  

I’ve ever seen so I I just can’t even imagine it  especially the ones offshore you’re sitting there  

at the beach watching these stupid things twisting  off the beach and still they’re only producing  

about 15% of our power in Texas yeah and there  are tons of the damn things I gota so till next  

time thanks folks we appreciate you guys coming  on hopefully this was something you learned and  

we’ll continue to do stuff like this for you  we will see you back here the very next time